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The Paradox of Judeo-Christian Values and Christian-Zionism 04: ‘We Killed Jesus, We’re Proud of It!’
https://abuiyaad.com/a/jewish-christian-dialogue-we-killed-jesus

Posted by Abu Iyaad
Friday, Dec 29 2023
Filed under Religions


Context: Muslims are perplexed at the strange alliance between Jewish Zionists and Christian Zionists, and are unable to decipher this conundrum of what appears to be a love-hate relationship. This series presents some of the things that Muslims find baffling hoping that either of the two parties can resolve this for us with a satisfactory explanation.

JUDAISM IS A NOVEL RELIGION that took shape after the era of Dāwūd and Sulaymān (عليهما السلام), after the decline of the Israelite and Judean kingdoms, and it is a religion that features tribalism, nationalism and land-redemption, with overt ethnosupremacism (see image). Its main form today is Rabbinical Judaism, where the Rabbis consider themselves divine and act as divinely-inspired spokesmen for the Jewish people, for the sole benefit of whom, according to Talmudic literature, God created the universe and all that is in it (see image).

Jesus (عليه السلام) was sent to these “lost sheep”, to call them to right guidance and to purify and shield the law of Moses from the Talmudist mindset that had begun to emerge and take shape after the Babylonian captivity. However, he was rejected and seen as a threat to the “national identity”. They divided into two, those who believed in him and those who disbelieved in him.

Those who believed in him also divided into two, those led by James the Just who defended the truth that works are an essential part of faith and one is justified (saved) through both faith and deeds, after the Lord’s grace.[1] And those led by Paul (Saul of Tarsus) who innovated a new religion of blood-sacrifice and redemption and made the law of non-effect in salvation.

Later Rome (Edom) adopted Christianity and carried this innovated religion not known to Jesus (عليه السلام) or his direct and early followers westwards. This new, innovated, evolving “Christianity” was a subversion of the message of Jesus (عليه السلام) and it became a political tool when Rome adopted it as religion, with added paganesque flavour.

Enmity defined the relationship between the Jews and the Christians and this continued through the centuries, where Christian nations (accused “bad borrowers” ) repeatedly expelled the Jews (accused “bad lenders” ) from their countries, and Jewish Rabbis (some of them at least) salivate the destruction of Edom (Christian West) as a prerequisite for the coming of their Messiah, who to the Muslims, is al-Masīḥ al-Dajjāl, the One-Eyed Liar.

In the modern era, the strange sycophantic species known as “Christian Zionists” serve the Zionist cause as they believe it will hasten the return of Jesus, after which they will fight the Jews (and others) and force them to convert. The Zionists in turn prop up these Christian Zionists (while knowing full well that they are insincere and sycophantic) because of their utility in furthering the Zionist cause, while at the same time, their Rabbis believe and state clearly that until and unless Edom (Christian West) is destroyed, their awaited Messiah (al-Dajjāl) will not arrive, and that when their Sanhedrin (Jewish Court) is established, Christians will be convicted and executed for idolatry.

While having kept their real view about Jesus (عليه السلام) hidden or textually encrypted through the centuries, fearing backlash and persecution, today some of the Rabbis (modern-day Pharisees) are very open and explicit.

From the things that perplex Muslims is how and why certain Christians become sycophants to the Zionists despite the utter contempt of the latter for them. Hate-filled degenerates—such as the ones shown below—denigrate them and the god that Rabbi Saul of Tarsus erected for them and which he exported to Rome and Greece in order to protect the national identity back there in Palestine. However, Jesus (عليه السلام), Son of Mary (عليها السلام) is exonerated from the excesses and iniquities of both parties, the Jews and Christians, a matter decisively clarified by the Lord of Jesus in the Qurʾān.

Moving to the subject of the article, here are some examples that bewilder Muslims:

Hate-Filled Jewish Extremist: “We Killed Jesus, and We’re Proud of It!”

Allāh the Exalted, the Lord of Abraham, Moses and Jesus, said in the Noble Qurʾān:

وَقَوۡلِهِمۡ إِنَّا قَتَلۡنَا ٱلۡمَسِيحَ عِيسَى ٱبۡنَ مَرۡيَمَ

“And their saying: ‘We killed the Messiah, Jesus, Son of Mary…’” (4:157-)

The picture below is a screenshot from a video, which although we have, we do not want to embed here as it contains vile, filthy language and denigration of the great, noble Prophet and Messenger, Jesus (عليه السلام), Son of Mary (عليها السلام), and we can't bear to hear or let others hear such speech with their ears.[2] So we will transcribe it instead and somewhat sanitize it.

The context of the video is that some Christians are preventing some young religious Jews, appearing to be in their teens, from trespassing into homes of Arabs and these Jews respond by denigrating Jesus (عليه السلام), abusing them, swearing at them, and threatening violence against them.

The hate-filled degenerate donkey—[and we apologise for this language, but we struggled to find anything less offensive]—which you see in the picture says the following:

You and you [------] Jesus, you can kiss my [---].

[-----] you! [-----] your mothers!

We killed Jesus, we’re proud of it!

This is our land, get the [----] out of here. This is my land you [---]!

This is my land you son of a [b*tch]! We’re gonna kill you and the Palestinians!

You son of a [sh*t]!

[Bast*rds] this is my house, my land and God gave it to me…

So the questions Muslims have for the Jewish and Christian Zionist alliance would be as follows:

01  First, a question for the Jewish Rabbis. Providing the benefit of the doubt, if this degenerate donkey is intoxicated (that’s the only excuse we can bring) with drugs or alcohol, then is this speech something that represents what is true in itself according to what Jews actually believe and what is in their books, or is it only something he said under the influence and just made it up? Meaning, has this donkey been taught these things or has he just made them up in an outburst under the influence of drugs and alcohol?

02  The next question would be specifically for Christian Zionists.[3] It really perplexes us, and we are not sure of this, but it appears—if this donkey is not under the influence and what he is saying is actually believed—that he is asking you and the god that you worship to kiss his posterior and he claims that he and his people killed your god. So we want to know, because if someone said this to us Muslims, about our own fathers, let alone a Noble Messenger from the Messengers of Allāh, we would not be very happy. So we want to know, if what he is saying is true and believed in (by his party), then from which angle you are kissing his behind or that of his likes?

Rabbi Slandering Mary, the Mother of Jesus

Allāh the Exalted, the Lord of Abraham, Moses and Jesus, said in the Noble Qurʾān:

وَبِكُفۡرِهِمۡ وَقَوۡلِهِمۡ عَلَىٰ مَرۡيَمَ بُهۡتَـٰنًا عَظِيمًا

“And because of their disbelief and uttering against Maryam a grave false charge (that she has committed illegal sexual intercourse).” (4:156-).

The picture below is a screenshot of the video and we do not desire to embed the video for the same reason mentioned above.

In the video, this Rabbi utters a grave false charge against Maryam (عليه السلام) and blames her for all the harms that came to the Jews during the past 2000 years. He means to say that because of the action of an indecent woman, as he alleges, they had to suffer to 2000 years of persecution. So our question here is really for the Christian Zionists:

01  We do not quite understand that if someone slandered your mothers and denigrated them with false and grave charges, why you would happily work with them to the detriment of those who defend your mothers and exonerate them. Rather, why you would actively support them in genociding and ethnically cleansing some of those who love and defend your mothers. It’s just not making sense and we as Muslims are bamboozled. Please, please relieve us with an answer.

That's the only real question for this one.

The Confusing Partnership

In short, this is what is really confusing:

“Let’s aid the Jews in erecting a homeland, to hasten the coming of our Messiah (Jesus as God)—even though they killed him as they boast themselves—so that when he comes, they will either convert or we will, led by Jesus, exterminate them in a holy war.” And conversely, “Let’s foster support of Christians—even though they persecuted us for 2000 years—to hasten our Messiah so that when he comes, they will either become Noahides or they will be exterminated in a holy war.”

Its a strange, perplexing love-hate relationship, and such a contradiction and corruption in love, hate, loyalty and disloyalty, can never emanate from true religion.

As for the Muslim view, then the Jews rejected Jesus, the Messiah, the Son of Mary, denying he is a Messenger and they are misguided for that. And the Christians, they fell victim to Saul’s alteration of the religion of Jesus, which is Islām (submission and obedience to Allāh) and the Law (the Torah, expunged of Talmudistry), and is salvation through belief and works combined. But Saul altered the religion and helped turn it into idolatry, and exported it out of Palestine to Rome and Greece so that what Jesus actually preached and called to would not take root and spread in the land, and thereby threaten the national identity.

So in reality, the Christians should be closer ot the Muslims from one angle (belief in Jesus as the miraculously-born Messiah and his mother Mary, a chaste and pious woman, chosen and favoured) and the Jews should be closer to the Muslims from another angle (rejection of idolatry). However, it appears that they—specifically, the Zionists among them—have allied with each other against the Muslims.

And this indicates that their love, hate, loyalty and disloyalty is not grounded in truth, which means they cannot be upon truth, as truth does not allow such contradiction between belief and conduct to manifest.

Footnotes
1. Refer to the Epistle of James in the New Testament.
2. Citing a statement of disbelief (in order to refute it) is not itself disbelief, however, there are limits and sanctities that should not be transgressed and in this instance, we do not wish to show the video.
3. Keep in mind that this degenerate donkey is saying this to Christians who are not Christian Zionists, so our question is specifically to Christian Zionists, particularly the sycophants in America.